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Passing comment was all I did ...then I just added some 'facts n figures' if you like, I cant imagine the government making up facts and figures about asylum seekers. I find word affairs interesting. No doubt others see it differently. I think its just open for discussion it not like anything will come of our views.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">does anyone on here actually know enough about this to pass any comment that is reliable and worth listening to? </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
i do.
even if the figures are acurate, what does it matter. its out responsibility to sort out some of the problems we helped create.
www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/ideas.html
thats got some interesting articles on it, im sure there is one about asylum seekers someplace.
United Nations Charter of Human Rights
Article 14.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
cant get fairer than that realy.
www.un.org for more lovly info
and thats what its all down to - the economy and fucking money.
perhaps it's just "crazy commy talk" but i think its a little selfish to be thinking about what they're "doing to our economy" and maybe think about what fucking hell they're going through. these are human beings that have been put in the situation they're in by either the west fucking with their government (eg the Americans and the Taliban) or by oppressive regimes in their own country who end up forcing them out for political/faith/race related issues (eg the Iraqi Kurds/Palestinians).
Like i said, when you see it like us taking some form of responsibilty for what has happened in the past then it seems more than fair that we should provide shelter for those desperate enough to flee their homes and families.
And the fact that we're going to spend millions on bombing their homes and families that have been left behind really doesn't seem right does it?
this is my opinion.
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and what of the muslims which live in this country who cheered when all those people died in the september 11th disaster. Regardless of whether it was the "representation of every kind of capitolism" or what ever... people died and they where just doing work in an office. In the counrties where people seek assylum, kids carry gun's and get taught how to use them against "capitalist scum" (UK and USA mainly, by the way) but then when their own country decides to fuck them about, they decide to come here anyway... ironic really isn't it? [img]smile.gif[/img]
Asylum Seekers:
give them shelter yeah, but why new stuff? loads of the new houses, most are above 80 grand in total are just given away, they get more benefits than the jobless britons!
why not give them old houses... and move current families up in the world to those new houses n stuff? (apart from thieving thug smackheads and criminals) not give them as much money aswell for a start, and at least say something like "if you dont get a job, or prove your trying.. OR commit a criminal offence then you can fuck off cos you dont deserve to be here"
n/t
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 12, 2002 06:06 AM: Message edited by: Sim ]</font>
mr coff33 is just stupid.we all live in grimsby as well.
on average jobless britons have more chances in life than jobless asylum seekers. we have more choices.
if you work hard, you will succeed. it doesnt matter how many people are scrounging off the government.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quincy:
mr coff33 is just stupid.we all live in grimsby as well.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
ay? That doesn't make sense.. I never said we don't live in grimsby....